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The Bible does talk about suffering a lot. Some denominations embrace it and others act like it’s not there.

But what exactly are we supposed to understand about suffering and what is the Bible really saying about it?

I’ve done a little research on this before when I came across a teaching about Tribulation.

The word tribulation in greek is the word philipsis which means an unbearable crushing weight.

But Jesus tells us to be of good cheer even though we will experience this in the world. Why? 

Jesus said to be of good cheer because He overcame the world and philipsis comes from the world.

We too are overcomers through the blood of the lamb.

What is the power that overcomes the world even our faith.

We will experience it because it’s all around us. We can see it coming from miles ahead or it can jump on us out of nowhere, but it’s here in our midst.

You can’t do anything about it being around but you don’t have to let it in. It’s like this, Jesus gave us a superpower: His peace.

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 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

John 14:27

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We have that peace by faith.

We simply believe God is who He says He is and He will do what He said He will do.

If you know what that means in the scripture that He is the Lord your Father,  Lover, Provider, Shalom, Protector, Guide, Shepherd, Eternal Reward, and so much more than you don’t have to let what’s going on around you affect what’s going on within you.

You can choose peace and not let your heart be troubled. Stand on the rock Christ alone because every other ground truly is sinking sand.

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What about persecution?

Persecution is a whole separate thing. I think persecution can be a part of tribulation but tribulation isn’t persecution.

Persecution is specifically people oppressing the believer for their faith. It could be as little as a condemning look or as big as being burned at the stake.

That’s persecution, and I do believe we can stay in peace through whatever comes.

God gives us more grace for the bigger things we face in life, so His glory can shine through us.

Suffering

So what about suffering? What is biblical suffering? What does it look like how are we supposed to go about it and if what it seems to me that we are supposed to stay in peace at all times what about when we suffer?

Let’s take a look at some scripture.

I’m in a passage in 1 Peter the very beginning of chapter 4 starts of saying

“Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.”

Suffered in the flesh. I’m confused. I’m reading it over a few times… 

In what way is he referring to Christ suffering in the flesh?

Of Course, the first thing that comes to mind is the crucifixion, but in what way then are we supposed to arm ourselves with the same mind?

Does that mean mindset?

The mindset the Lord was in when He went to the cross? The scripture that comes to mind is Hebrews 12:2.

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Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Hebrews 12:2

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But then I feel like we take a turn talking about those who suffered in the flesh ceased from sin?

This isn’t a turn but a flow, but how? What does it mean ceased from sin?

Just because you suffer bodily doesn’t make “you” much better for it. 

Okay.. So here’s an idea.

What if instead of Suffered we put the word disciplined? Let’s think about it.

When you are exercising you are disciplining your body.

It’s a discipline to be consistent. Your disciplining your body when decide to wake up earlier every morning. I

t’s not fun. You don’t want to do it. Some might say it’s suffering it sure feels like it some days okay most days, but we are doing it for a better cause.

This seems to fit better for what he talks on next. Let’s look in the KingJamesBibleDictionary for more details on the word suffering in this passage.

Strongs Def: to experience a sensation or impression (usually painful)

Thayer’s Def: to be affected or have been affected, to feel, have a sensible experience, to undergo

This seems to go well with discipline. Let’s look at some other translations…

Most translations are pretty much saying it the same way, but I like how the amplified put it…

Therefore, since Christ suffered in the flesh [and died for us], arm yourselves [like warriors] with the same purpose [being willing to suffer for doing what is right and pleasing God], because whoever has suffered in the flesh [being like-minded with Christ] is done with [intentional] sin [having stopped pleasing the world], (AMP) – 1 Peter 4:1

Perhaps it means when you have devoted your heart and mind so much that you are ready to lay your life down that going after sinful desires is a non issue because you no longer have sinful desires. Your heart and mind is one with Christ’s. You love what He loves and hate what he hates. 

Andrew’s Commentary

Now let’s take a quick look at what Andrew’s Commentary says about this…

He tells us to go back. I went back to that last verse of chapter 3, but He tells us to go back further. All the way to 3:14 where it says,

“But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;”

Peter exhorted us to look to Jesus in our sufferings and see how He was rewarded for what He endured for us. This verse is saying the same thing. We should think the same way that Jesus thought as he was enduring suffering 

Then he gives us the verse Heb 12:2  I brought up above.

Andrew continues…

Everything Jesus did, He did for us, so we should take advantage of it. We need to think the way Jesus thinks.

Notice that we “arm” ourselves with the way Jesus thinks. That’s describing having the mind of Christ as a weapon. Indeed, the battle is in the mind 

Notice that we “arm” ourselves with the way Jesus thinks. That’s describing having the mind of Christ as a weapon. Indeed, the battle is in the mind (Proverbs 23:7). Thinking like Jesus will stop Satan from defeating us (see my note at Hebrews 11:15).

Note at Hebrews 11:15:

Opportunity to return (which, for Abraham, was temptation or sin) was linked to what they thought on. You can’t be tempted with something that you don’t think upon. Control your thinking and you will control your temptation. What a powerful truth!

This verse can be turned around and say that since they weren’t mindful of the country they came out of, they weren’t tempted to go back. All of us could be mighty men and women of God if we weren’t tempted. So, we shouldn’t think on that which brings temptation.

 

How does Jesus think? He has already suffered in the flesh for our sin. He became sin for us once (For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. – 2 Corinthians 5:21), but He doesn’t have anything to do with sin anymore. He, Jesus, has ceased from sin. 1 Peter 4:2 tells us that sin has no more dominion over Him. Similarly, we should think of how Jesus paid our debt and not relate to sin anymore, just as Jesus has nothing to do with sin.

This is not speaking of us suffering and then overcoming sin. This is speaking of how Jesus suffered death on the cross, paid for our sins, and totally conquered sin. Now there is no sin in Him. When we likewise reckon ourselves to be dead unto sin, we will be (see my notes at Romans 6:6-7 and 9). – AWC

That was power packed and helped me understand the verse a little better. I personally need to do more study on the ceasing from sin part. Just because it makes sense doesn’t mean I understand it if that makes sense. If you would like to look into Andrew’s Commentary check out the free version here: 

https://www.awmi.net/reading/online-bible-commentary/

That’s enough for today. Lord give me understand according to Your Word. Amen.

In His Service,

Abi

 

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